cfuw_shepherd ([personal profile] cfuw_shepherd) wrote2008-06-25 11:11 pm

Game 80: Wolves

These are the wolves . . . hello.

Don't worry. You don't actually have to eat people. Maybe . . . oh. Sorry.
gothrumefirst: (care factor: zero!)

[personal profile] gothrumefirst 2008-06-26 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
Hmph, count yourself lucky. I don't go easy on pervert guys who get all up in a girl's business!

[identity profile] sparklybite.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 09:29 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't mean to seem like a pervert! Even if you're cute, you seem very committed and I'm happy for you!
gothrumefirst: (got some ketchup on your nose)

[personal profile] gothrumefirst 2008-06-26 09:30 am (UTC)(link)
... Hmph. Well, good. Make sure it stays that way!

Now let's talk strategy.

[identity profile] sparklybite.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 09:32 am (UTC)(link)
Of course! Ah ... I'm not sure the best way to go about this.
gothrumefirst: (who knows! who cares!)

[personal profile] gothrumefirst 2008-06-26 09:37 am (UTC)(link)
Well, there's not a lot we can do for now, since the game has barely started. And like I said, I've never played as a wolf before, so I may not be any good at it. But I AM good at being a sheep. So for now, I'm just going to act exactly as I've done when I've been a sheep in previous rounds-- that is, act like I don't trust ANYBODY. Then if we get a three-way clue tomorrow, whether I'm in it or not, I'll probably open locked posts to the three (or other two) people involved in the clue and act like I'm questioning them to find out which one's the wolf, and so on. If we don't get a clue, or we get a safe sheep clue, I'll probably open posts to everyone... or something.

Before that, though, is there anybody in this game you're close to? Who could tell if you're lying, or who would believe you if you tell them you're not a wolf, or who you don't feel comfortable lying to? That sort of thing is best known before we start.

[identity profile] sparklybite.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 09:40 am (UTC)(link)
That's a good way to go about it!

I only know Sheryl. She was the one who talked about the clues being a puzzle with you! I should open a post to her, then? I don't think she knows me well enough to tell if I'm lying, because I'm just a fan.
gothrumefirst: (...oops?)

[personal profile] gothrumefirst 2008-06-26 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, that crazy lady. Sure sure, but not yet-- probably after the first clue has come out. It'll seem suspicious if you open a post to someone you don't know really really well TOO early in the game, right? Or, I dunno, that's just what I think...

And, ummm... yeah, it's hard to think up a specific game plan when the first round hasn't really started yet and half the people are yet to show up. But after things get moving, we should at least try to be in contact with as much of the flock as possible without seeming suspicious. It's really just a game of numbers-- the person who has more people on their side wins. So information about who's doing what, and sheepy alliances with you and other wolves, are the key. And in order to do that, you need people to trust you, and you can't really get people to trust you if they haven't spoken to you.

Some people can pull off lying low, but if I ever tried to do that it'd be immediately suspicious, since I'm always plenty vocal as a sheep.

[identity profile] sparklybite.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
Just act like a sheep, then. It may mean you have to incriminate one of us, but as long as we win in the end. I don't think I'd act any different if I were a sheep, so I have that on my side! I'll have to be careful about tracking where I get information from, of course.

It shouldn't be hard! We'll just need to act like them! When it comes to making the sheep suspicious, we might want to let others point out suspicious behavior so we don't pile on people. ... Right?
gothrumefirst: (...yo!)

[personal profile] gothrumefirst 2008-06-26 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, we win as a team, whereas the sheep win only by surviving to the end. So all three wolves should usually avoid voting all the same way unless there's good reasoning for it.

Speaking of reasoning, that's another thing. This may seem obvious, but... always make sure that EVERYTHING you say and do has a solid sheepy reasoning behind it. And make sure you can back everything up. Aside from the obvious "I'm a sheep", avoid making stuff up as much as possible. Pick one story and stick to it. The more you lie and change your story, the more things you forget about, and the easier it is for you to be caught out or other people to pick your story apart. If it helps, write down in condensed format somewhere exactly what you've said and to who, and your reasons why, and so on. (And who's said what to you, and what information you shouldn't know thanks to being a sheep and not a wolf.) That's a good way to keep track of everything, especially when it comes to ousting. The faster and clearer you can make your arguments, the better. Though there's not much of a leg to stand on in the first round, but still.

Also, letting people point out suspicious behaviour has it's merits, so you and the other dude up there can work on that strategy if you want. But as a sheep I've always gone with the assumption that the people who seem to be constantly "going with the flow" are the most suspicious, because that's what wolves would behave like. Sooo I'm probably going to make some noise. It may bite me in the butt, but I think it can be done.

[identity profile] silent-crown.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I was a wolf last time...

. . . I know a couple of them. Canaan is my friend.
Edited 2008-06-26 23:34 (UTC)
gothrumefirst: (uho!)

[personal profile] gothrumefirst 2008-06-26 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, cool then, you can guide us!

[identity profile] silent-crown.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
...

[nods lightly] We lost in the last night.
gothrumefirst: (nudge nudge wink wink)

[personal profile] gothrumefirst 2008-06-26 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Sweet! Here's to hoping then! I've never been in a game where the wolves won yet... ehe.

[identity profile] silent-crown.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
. . . Yes.

[identity profile] sparklybite.livejournal.com 2008-06-27 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
Then your side's never lost!
gothrumefirst: (place my bets)

[personal profile] gothrumefirst 2008-06-27 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, well I don't intend for it to start now! Adachi Emiri plays to WIN!

[identity profile] sparklybite.livejournal.com 2008-06-27 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
According to one of her questions, there may be no safe sheep this game.
gothrumefirst: (you lost me at hello)

[personal profile] gothrumefirst 2008-06-27 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Eh? Isn't that impossible? After the third day, if you eliminate the first two suspects in a three person clue, the last person remaining is either a definite sheep or definite wolf, since the shepherd has to give a warning if it's the last round. Unless we get a three-person clue in tomorrow's round and not today's... well, in any case, it doesn't matter much to us. The less people for the sheep to trust, the better. And having a safe sheep pretty much dictates who we should to eat, so it's a bother if we want to eat someone else.

[identity profile] sparklybite.livejournal.com 2008-06-27 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
It may mean they're not getting a clue!
gothrumefirst: (...oops?)

[personal profile] gothrumefirst 2008-06-27 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmmm. We'll see for now, it's still a little too early to tell.
gothrumefirst: (...yo!)

[personal profile] gothrumefirst 2008-06-27 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, by the way, I set up a fake "locked" post for us to talk in here, if you want! Umm, Serph-- that's your name, right? I can do one to you too, if you want, but I don't want to create more work for us than is actually necessary. I've created posts to three other sheep as well, under the guise that "Well, if I create locked posts to four people, ONE of them has to be a sheep, logically speaking, right?" mostly because I'm way too tired now to created locked posts to everyone. Etc etc.
gothrumefirst: (bold and delicious)

[personal profile] gothrumefirst 2008-06-27 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
Oh hey also, I think the shepherd implied in a comment to Sheryl over here that the special person or whatever may be able to work with us, if we find them first! That could be an advantage to us...